FRIENDSHIP- How to build and sustain a friendship
F- Focus on what you have in common. Being on a team can help greatly here.
R- Remember to keep in touch and Return calls promptly.
I- Include the flair factor- This means that occasionally you include surprises, or you do things with an extra touch of class, or you give a thoughtful gift. "Everyone is the friend of a man who gives gifts" Prov.19:6. My daughter turned on the friendship faucet when she heard I was planning to go to Dunkin Donuts to get my wife a coffee.
E- Encourage your friend and Enrich him with what you’ve been learning. Also Empathize. Be a caring friend, especially coming to the aid of an overwhelmed, "Broken Arrow" brother. Be devoted to your wingmen and your fire team.
Now let's discover a few more key ingredients for gaining and sustaining a lasting FRIENDSHIP-
N- Never abandon your friend and Never speak ill of your friend to others.
In our passage in Proverbs 19:1-14 today, we see that wealth brings many "friends" but a poor man's "friend" deserts him" 19:4. I put those words in quotes because such friends are only good time buddies. The prodigal son had such, until his money ran out. Some of you have had "friends" who were with you in the sunshine, but were gone with the wind in your storm. Ouch! Friday, we confirmed our loyalty to each other and that we will respond to broken arrow texts when sent out by a brother who is overwhelmed. Sadly, I've seen some of the people New Life has helped the most have turned around and bad mouthed us the most. Those who slander and belittle must be little indeed. Never speak ill of your friend to others. That's called gossip or slander and it has no place in the mouth of a Christian and certainly not in M3. "A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends" Prov.16:28. A few days ago, Robert shared an acronym that is quite fitting here and will make you THINK-
Is it True? Helpful? Inspiring? Necessary? Kind?
Never speak ill of your friend to others, instead Nurture that friendship with loyalty.
Do enjoyable things together. When I was younger, so much younger than today, my friends and I played basketball together. Now at my age, I'm happy to take a walk together or eat together. (Hope you'll be free to join us for good eating at Jack's on Sunday, June 28th:) The key is to find things that you both enjoy doing.
Here's another D word that is key to sustaining friendships. Divulge yourself. Some people who hide behind a wall of self-protection, fearing that others might reject them if they knew their past or present struggles. Unfortunately, those walls keep people at a distance. I'm not suggesting that we 'tell all' to people we just meet, but it is crucial to open up and share to have genuine friends. I've been drawn closer to you as you have shared stories from your past- the good, the bad and the funny. What a great group to make new friends!
Here's another D word that is key to sustaining friendships. Divulge yourself. Some people who hide behind a wall of self-protection, fearing that others might reject them if they knew their past or present struggles. Unfortunately, those walls keep people at a distance. I'm not suggesting that we 'tell all' to people we just meet, but it is crucial to open up and share to have genuine friends. I've been drawn closer to you as you have shared stories from your past- the good, the bad and the funny. What a great group to make new friends!
Strive to listen intently. Isn't it amazing how easy it is to miss what someone just said? Parents tend to tune out their children. I was in a store last week and the toddler said five times, "Mommy, I have to go potty." But moms aren't the only ones who are hard of hearing. I had a good laugh when I read these words on a man's T-shirt- "My wife says I don't listen to her...or something like that." As we seek to listen to our wives, I know it can be hard to understand them. A pastor friend and I walk together every Wednesday morning. He told me this funny one on understanding women. This man was walking along a southern California beech when he came across a lamp. He couldn't resist rubbing it. Lo and behold, out popped a genie who said, "I can grant you one wish, just name it."
"Wow! Let's see...I've always thought it would be great to be able to drive to Hawaii, since I hate to fly. So build me a highway to Hawaii."
"Now that is a very difficult request. How about another?"
"Well...I've always wanted to understand my wife. That would be good."
To which the genie, replied, "Did you want that to be a 2 or a 4 lane highway?"
Yes, wives (husbands too) don't always say what they mean or mean what they say. But the following verse comes to mind- 1 Peter 3:7 NASB says to husbands, "live with your wives in an understanding way," I have told my wife, "I may not always understand, but I always want to be understanding." I wish I could say that I always succeed, but it's a good goal.
1.-Read Prov.19:1-14 now and share one verse or phrase that grabbed your attention and why. Then put that Scripture on your MP3 card and seek to sow that good seed in other's lives.
2.- We've been focusing on gaining and sustaining friends. We've likened it to gaining the most rare and remarkable collectors item. For a man to have friends he must show himself friendly. So share about a significant conversation you've had recently with a man about his life or joining M3.
Laughing together is another great way to strengthen friendships. I'm so glad I'm with a bunch of brothers who also like to laugh. A sign of good emotional health is the ability to laugh at oneself. So grin and bear it with the following sequel video! :)
Laughing together is another great way to strengthen friendships. I'm so glad I'm with a bunch of brothers who also like to laugh. A sign of good emotional health is the ability to laugh at oneself. So grin and bear it with the following sequel video! :)
Please welcome our newest brother to M3- Luis Ortiz. Luis is a friend of Ismael, Eddie and William. He used to attend New Life, but now is involved at City Church Chicago. I'm sure he will end up having a great impact there in multiplying manly men. Welcome Luis!
Here are the total points you posted last week. Look at how many of you scored 25 or more points. Wow! Way to go and grow! Again, the U on this list represents those who were unstoppable last week. To be fair, if you are late a day or more, that won't qualify anymore for being unstoppable. (Plus, it's a lot of work on Sunday nights for me to go back and check if you made up dates. Thanks!:) As you put your points on the board today, remember that you can include all the good work you did over the weekend.
| Fire Team 1 | Fire Team 4 | |||||||
| Eddie Morales | U | R5 | 48 | George Rabiela | U | R2 | 90 | |
| Phil Raymond | U | 32 | Mike Pagan | U | R2 | 26 | ||
| Alex Dyckman | U | 26 | Rich Guardiola | U | 29 | |||
| Ismael Andrade | U | R2 | 53 | Dave Heidekruger | U | R1 | 27 | |
| Gary Remson | U | R1 | 23 | Chuy Cervantes | U | 19 | ||
| James Schmidt | U | 33 | Fire Team 5 | |||||
| William Dyckman | U | 41 | Jack Rogers | U | R4 | 83 | ||
| Fire Team 2 | Andre Vargas | U | 25 | |||||
| Sam Vargas | U | R2 | 67 | Armando Hernandez | U | 31 | ||
| Oscar Nunez | U | 35 | George Doherty | U | R1 | 27 | ||
| Marcos Rico | 0 | Jose Billegas | U | 3 | ||||
| Israel Fuentes | U | 42 | Roger Vinlasaca | U | R1 | 65 | ||
| Flo Juarez | U | 29 | Fire Team 6 | |||||
| Fire Team 3 | Dave Garratt | U | 51 | |||||
| Robert Roman | U | R1 | 110 | Horacio De La Torre | U | 35 | ||
| Guillermo Baez | U | 45 | Ed Lake | U | 20 | |||
| Vince Diaz | U | R1 | 33 | Dave DeBoer | U | 17 | ||
| Antonio Palomar | U | R1 | 34 | Mark Estrada | 1 | |||
| Nic Palhegyi | U | 15 | ||||||
| Osiris Alday | U | 39 |
I'm on the board now as the temporary fire team 6 leader, until we have a replacement. We are looking for men who are faithful and encouraging and have graduated from basic training. That is accomplished by receiving your Unstoppable award (4 weeks in a row of being unstoppable on the blog) and by recruiting at least one other brother to M3. (For fun, I'm not giving myself points for comments I give to others on the blog:) Lastly, Jose Billegas and Mark Estrada were new with us this past week, so their first week doesn't count. Welcome to the game this week men.
As we announced last week,we would post the weekly team average scores, not including the fire team captains for now. So here they are and wow! Excellent!
Fire Team 1- 34.6
Fire Team 2- 26.5
Fire Team 3- 33.2
Fire Team 4- 25.2
Fire Team 5- 37
Fire Team 6- 24
1. Prov 19:11 " Good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an offense. "
ReplyDelete2. A friend on mine called me this past weekend to see if I had time to go with him to buy some shoes for his daughter. Since I had not seen him in a while I thought it would be a great time to just talk and hang out so I agreed.
After finding some shoes for his daughter we went to get somethig to eat so we had some time to talk. My friend is currently separated from his wife. They had been separated before but got back together for five years, then again things didn't work out and they separated again.
During the conversation I asked him how things were when they had gotten back together after the first separation. He said they were great. So I asked him what he thought went wrong the second time, I was actually expecting him to blame his wife but he admitted the he had a lot to do with the separation and it was mainly his fault. It was great to see his sincerity as we continued to talk about the whole situation.
I had a great chance to encourage him and will continue to do so in the future.
Excellent Roger! Your friend has a very caring friend.
DeleteI pray that you keep pouring into him and speak life into his future.
DeleteRoger, great that you opened the door to talk with him once again. I pray that you help him find his way through our Lord
Deleteproverbs 19;3 A man's own folly ruins his life, yet his heart rages against the LORD....I called a friend who lives in Texas, he said he was getting winded a lot so went to doctor they rushed him in to surgery, he said GOD didn't bring him this far too let him go now, Amen....Good morning Louis and welcome aboard
ReplyDeleteVery good Flo! I take it that's Martin whom we talked about. Bless you!
ReplyDeleteProverbs 19.3.ESV When a man’s folly brings his way to ruin, his heart rages against the Lord. This opened my eyes. In how we get so quick to blame are actions on god but reality it was are choices that got us there.
ReplyDeleteGood words there James. May the Lord give you good opportunities to sow seeds into other guys. Be prayerfully on the lookout. I believe you are a vessel fit for the Master's use.
DeleteAmen James! So many times we make plans without his blessing and they crumble underneath me. Wise words.
DeleteVery true, James! Good job on faithfully doing your posts!
DeleteProverbs 19:2
ReplyDeleteDesire without knowledge is not good—how much more will hasty feet miss the way!
This just reminds me of just walking through life desiring to change and desiring things and not knowing how to go about it. I for one have had hasty feet and have missed my way MANY times but knowledge is the key to success and open doors, I heard someone say before.
2- As to speaking to someone else recently I have not but I have had great life conversations with the mentoring group that I'm associated with. From what they have been through to how they have managed to over come the hasty feet also. It's inspiring
Good verse Guillermo.
DeleteDon't forget your conversation with Juan Castile regarding M3. It was good talking with him after getting his application. Sounds like he will be ready to join us soon. Way to go!
Welcome Luis! Glad you are with us brother. God Bless
ReplyDeleteWelcome Luis it's always a blessing to have another brother share their life experience in the lord it helps me a lot
Delete1) Proverbs 19:11 (NIV) A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one’s glory to overlook an offense.
ReplyDeleteA great virtue in relationships is patience. If none of us had any, we would not have spouses, friends, family, etc.
I pray that you will have patience with others, just like God has patience with us. Have a blessed day!
2) I reached out to Lou Ojeda last week and got to know him a little better. He was in the same bible study group on Tuesdays about two years ago. I told him about the impact it has had on me. I hope he can join us.
Excellent Sam!
DeleteThe following quote is a bit of an overstatement, but it highlights the value of patience. "The man that can have patience, can have what he wills." I might add the persistent patient man... God has been molding you into such. And the persistent and patient fisherman will have a great catch. That's your future. "Follow Me and I will make you fishers of men." Mt.4:19
Thanks Sam that's so true about patience, I lose it at times when I'm overwhelmed but I have realized that it's not such a big deal what I'm losing patience over.
DeleteProverbs 19:8
ReplyDeleteThe one who gets wisdom loves life;the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper.
I chose this verse because ever since I gained the wisdom of our lord I learned to love and cherise my life, and I gracefully welcome any knowledge I can gain from being in the word of our father. By doing so I hope to become prosperous in my future days
Welcome to new brothers who are joint us.... GOD BLESS US ALL.
Good words Jose! I'm so glad you've joined us! And how neat to see how you are already welcoming others.
DeleteDon't forget to put your points on the board today for this weekend. If you need any help with this, feel free to call me or one of your fire team members. We are here for you.
Thank you brother...
DeleteAmen Jose we all start somewhere and the good word is always the start of a different perspective of life, I have been able to understand how my life has been changed
Delete1. "A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one’s glory to overlook an offense." Proverbs 19:11
ReplyDeleteWhile attending my son's High School graduation ceremony yesterday, I experienced two offenses. One was direct, the other indirectly. The first occurred when we were allowed to enter the Field Museum and were ushered into a long hallway with crowd control barriers that created lines for us to wait at. We were among the first of approximately 600 hundred guest attending the ceremony to enter the facilities. My wife accompanied by my in-laws, decided that instead of walking down the long hallway they would just scoot under the rope barrier and get in line. I was trailing a few feet behind them when suddenly to my surprise an event staff member began screaming at me from the end of the hall not to do that. I hadn't done anything (yet)! As I walked down the hallway she began to belittle and scold me in public for something I personally hadn't done (yet). I chose to smile and forgive. Besides, we had a good laugh at my expense for something they got caught doing.
The second offense was by the loud and irreverent family (guest) who sat immediately behind us who did not practice the courtesy of silence required for such a momentous event. We would've gladly just sought other seats but it wasn't an option. For 2 1/2 hours we endured the torment of brash and inappropriate behavior. Having the urge, but not once turning around to ask them to keep it down or seeking an usher's assistance. We chose to overlook the offense and forgive even if they were oblivious to the fact that one had been committed.
2. Yes, had an opportunity to share with Brother Omar Trejo. I've known him for a few years and consider him to be not just a brother-in Christ but also a friend. Dave, thanks for following up with him last week :-)
Brother Luis, welcome to the brotherhood of M3. Glad to have you on-board :-)
Ah Robert, you have the patience of Job! Congratulations on the graduation of Jeremiah! Yahoo! I was just praying for him and Jonathan again recently.
DeleteBrother Robert, it's shows great character on your behalf to restrain yourself. It seems that no matter where we go we to encounter people that tru my patience. I have noticed that if I to ignore and pray the issues is usually resolved. God bless you for keeping your cool.
DeleteGreat story brother, and forgiving heart.
DeleteI praise God for your Pacience Robert.
DeleteHe who gets wisdom loves his own soul; He who keeps understanding will find good. (Proverbs 19:8 NASB)
ReplyDeleteWisdom needs to be searched for. You won't find much wisdom in media or on the street corner. We need to seek out wise individuals. I definitely want "the good." I've seen enough of foolish decisions that lead to harm and regret.
2. I have many great friends and especially you guys in M3 but one has been in my thoughts a lot recently. You probably have been blessed by this brother. His name is Julian Aguirre. I was just thinking today that I would really like to bless and show him how much I appreciate him. He always picks up the phone when I call and has always been vulnerable and encouraging. Every time I see him he is ministering to some guys. When he is not on the phone with me he is talking to other guys on the phone or meeting up with them. He is a great example to follow.
Good Nic. Julian has been a great blessing to many. Please share with him what you're liking about M3. It would be great to have him join us. Glad you will also be sharing with brothers on your upcoming fishing trip. Greet those I know- Chris and Eric.
DeleteI agree nick, wisdom must be sought for. Amen.
DeleteTo acquire wisdom is to love yourself; people who cherish understanding will prosper. (Proverbs 19:8 NLT)
ReplyDeleteThis verse, "To acquire wisdom is to love yourself". Hmm, love yourself. That's the key, love yourself. I know I haven't love myself because "I lie to myself, my wife, my kids, my brothers and sisters of the church but ultimately my Lord God who knows my heart. Jesus says, ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. (Matthew 15:8 NLT). Here's Jesus truth to that verse to another verse that Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. This promise belongs to you and to your children and to everyone who is far away. It belongs to everyone who worships the Lord our God.” (Acts 2:38-39 GW). There it is, Peter quotes it best, "who is far away". Put my name there, "Marcos is far away." Far away from love. Apostle Paul describes it, "If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." (1 Corinthians 13:2 NASB). Jesus replied, “‘You must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. (Matthew 22:37-38 NLT). I have to expose the enemy who "loves" to blame, shame and condemn Gods children hearts. Can't hide it anymore the lies in my heart which is an iniquity. I thank my Lord God for this verse that's healing me. Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, (Psalms 103:3 NKJV) I need healing! I'm confessing my Lord God, wife, children, brothers and sisters of the church of my immorality sin and asking prayer. “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.” (Matthew 18:19-20 NKJV). I'm taking responsibility for my actions by confessing my immorality thoughts to my God, family, brothers and sisters of the church that we all know is sin. I'm exposing the enemy and not so much me, because I know my Father in heaven created me to "Love" in Christ Jesus. Oh yeah, the second part of the verse: "people who cherish understanding will prosper." I cherish this verse: Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written: “For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.” Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:35-39 NKJV)
Wow Marcos, I appreciate your vulnerability. You're not preaching, but sharing, and that is powerful. We are here for you and each other. I think you're at work right now, but I'll leave a text so we can talk when you're free.
DeleteVerse 1:
ReplyDeleteBetter is a poor person who walks in his integrity than one who is crooked of speech and is a fool... -ESV
Better to be poor and honest, than a rich person no one can trust... -MSG
The very first verse stuck out to me. Just last year I started to get into a season of deep depression. I had recently transitioned to a new job that didn't pay nearly enough as my old one. I felt if i was stuck in a life that had no worth, I entered my 30's and I still am not in a relationship, all my previous romantic interests had fallen apart. I felt stuck. I enrolled with Cornerstone Counselling Center. Then the Lord began to speak to me, bringing to me Matt 6:25-34 in many different ways. He gave me the strength to leave the counselling and simply seek him. Speaking of friends, during the month of November i made a decision to be open with my friends, to trust people and to seek help from those around me instead of closing myself off like i was used to. The way i see Prov 19:1 and Matt 6:25-34 tie in my life is that. I don't need luxury in life as long as I have Christ and the life i walk in Him to walk with integrity.
A few weeks ago in prayer the Holy Spirit told me to talk with one of my co-workers. So I did, to my surprise he opened up to me and in turn i shared with him my journey of depression. He shared with me that he felt stuck in his life. He didn't know what to do or where to go. A week before i had that conversation with him I had just finished reading Pastor Marks book -Unstuck. I lend my co-worker the book and he's reported to me that he's feeling so much encouraged.
Thank you all for the greetings. I'm looking forward to walk along side a great group of men.
Ah Luis, I already like you. You're just the kind of man we are looking for- honest, not perfect or pretending to be. These are the kind of men the Lord uses and the kind that others can bond with in this band of brothers. Your honest sharing with your co-worker is a great example of that. He then opened up to you and you offered help. Excellent! Just be faithful here and God will make you fruitful. (PS- cute picture of you and your dog:)
DeleteThanks Dave
DeleteAwesome story brother! Glad you've made the great decision to come into M3.
DeleteWay to take the bold step and follow the Lord's command.
DeleteSo glad you're a part of the team Luis.
Great way to start blogging man, with fantastic and real post! Well done bro!
DeleteWelcome to M3, Luis! Glad you are here!
DeleteThank you gentlemen.
Delete1) Whoever gets sense loves his own soul;
ReplyDeletehe who keeps understanding will discover good.
(Proverbs 19:8 ESV)
I think this saying that one has to keep believing in people or the world because i see that when we judge others its based off their actions but if you were to understanding that person by knowing what they went through and where they came from your understanding would probably help you reach out and find the good in them.
2) Every chance i get I try to talk to my friend Miguel and talk to him about M3 i dont have to tell him how it has changed me he sees it, but he feels he is not ready to sacrifice many things in his life, I pray that he changes his mind and let God help him with the process
I like that Andre. We are to hate the sin but love the sinner. And you've given a helpful way of doing that- seek to understand them, even if we disagree with them. seek to discover their good qualities. The bad ones are so easy to fixate on. The greatest earthly hope of seeing a person change is that kind of loving and truthful focus.
DeletePS- Have you talked with Jack or any other men in your fire team or M3 about Miguel? Is he a Christian yet?
DeleteThe more Christian events, videos or brothers you can get him around the better.
1. Great Andre, keep showing him the light and perseverence and God will do the rest. Love is powerful bro
DeleteProverbs 19: 8 The one who gets wisdom loves life; the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper. Prospering is not only about money it's also about salvation. What better to prosper than salvation. Money comes and goes but salvation is forever.
ReplyDeleteAs I stated before my work partner has been opening up to me about things in life and I am able to share from the MP3 cards as well other verses in the bible to sow seeds into his life. God will do the rest. Also he still loves KLOVE 94.3.
I'm smiling Mike! :)
DeleteAmen, brother Mike! Salvation IS forever. It is our greatest inheritance as heirs of Christ and it is our calling to bring others to their inheritance. Like your friend, I too still love K-LOVE. Their phone app lets me tune in even when I'm not near a radio, and I love worshipping to and from work.
DeleteGreat job Mike at being a great testimony to your friend.
Delete1. Lots of people flock around a generous person; everyone’s a friend to the philanthropist. (Proverbs 19:6 MSG)
ReplyDelete2. I had a talk with a guy this week about overcoming the feelings of inadequacy over being a good father to his child who he had with a woman who he is now estranged from. Tough stuff but we prayed and sought The Lord together on it.
Wow, that is a tough situation. Glad you could minister to him, Dave.
DeleteWhat a great opportunity that you had... To be able to pray for your friend and seek Him.
DeleteNice Dave D! Going to the Lord is always the first a best! Keep it up brother!
Delete1. – Proverbs 19:8 the one who gets wisdom loves life; the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper.
ReplyDelete2. – My friend Ricky needs the word of God and needs to follow Jesus. He knows this very well but does not want to leave his sinful nature. He wants a better life and he knows exactly what to do but he is stuck. I keep motivating him to come to church, and to read the word of God but he makes excuses for everything. I pray for him on a daily basis and keep explaining that with God life is 10 x greater. I tell him that God will keep his promises and will restore him back to life.
Thanks Oscar for your loving outreach to Ricky. Please give him this link- greatestminimovies.com and ask him to watch some of the minimovies. Ask him to then share with you what he thought of them. Ask him to especially watch "I Thought"
DeleteLet me know what happens. Thanks! Seeds will be planted in his heart.
You are a great friend by reaching out to Ricky and telling him about the only solution to his problems.... Christ.
Delete1.A person’s wisdom yields patience;
ReplyDeleteit is to one’s glory to overlook an offense.
To forgive someone of their offense is a Jesus attitude. Doesn't necessarily mean we agree with what they have done. But we choose to forgive and overlook and forget just has God has done for us.
2. I haven't had much conversation with men about M3. But i have had alot of conversations and have had alot of stories with the teams down here in Mexico.
Ps. Glad Luis and joined. Congrats man welcome!
I love the term you've coined here, brother Eddie: Jesus attitudes. I want my identity to be a reflection of Christ within me. That requires adopting Jesus attitudes, even when (especially when) it proves most difficult.
DeleteHey men, as many of you know, Eddie is still on a mission trip in Mexico. This morning he emailed me his notes that you now see above, because at the time he was having a tough time getting on the blog. I was just about to post them, but he has since persevered and gotten through. I love Eddie and his unstoppable drive. (I think he would send his blog comments via carrier pigeon if need be. Of course the pigeon would deserve some kind of unstoppable award as well:)
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ReplyDeleteProverbs 19:5 Wealth attracts many friends,
but even the closest friend of the poor person deserts them.
I know a friend who is Christian bother. He ran into tough financial times. I helped him in many ways at a time when I also was going through very tight times. This friend was so needy. It was a constant drain on my time and resources. I never turned him away, though I had to Limit the help I gave him. He eventually got back on his feet. I felt used when he didn't stay in contact. I got his new cell phone number recently. I've been reluctant to contact him because I'm afraid it will lead to being asked to do him more favors. I can relate to this proverb.
I've been reminding Bob Alagna about M3. I'm taking Dave Gs advice about not giving up with friends. I invited Bob to the next M3 meeting the though I will be out of town
Wow my brother you are not alone in that situation. I've had that happen to me. I pray the lord blesses you for bring helpful. God Bless
DeleteUgh! What a painful ordeal.
DeleteYou're on the blog early for you Dave, so I'm guessing you are already on your Route 66 road trip with your family. Enjoy and thanks for seeking to stay in touch with us. And kudos for not giving up sowing seeds in others lives. In due time we will reap if we do not give up. It might be in a different field, a different man, but God will honor your never give up attitude. Men are His field and He wants to bring about a fruitful harvest in them. We are co-laborers with Him.
I definitely know what you mean, this proverb is so true. I have seen family members and friends of those who are very poor run away and avoid such people :(
Delete1) A foolish child is a father’s ruin, and a quarrelsome wife is like the constant dripping of a leaky roof. (Proverbs 19:13 NIV)
ReplyDelete2) I have recently been talking with a friend that paroled out of prison, he is going through some rough times because things have not and did not go as expected when he came home. I told him a little of how my life has been changing because I changed the group I associate with.
Excellent sharing Ricardo! God uses what we go through to minister to others when we are willing to share. (2 Cor.1:3-4)
DeleteYour are in the perfect position to be a great testimony to your friend. I pray that God will use you in a powerful way in your friends life.
Delete1. " A kings rage is like the roar of a lion, but his favor is like dew on the grass." Proverbs 19:12
ReplyDeleteWe seek his favor in all we do did it
2. I reached out to a friend about M3 and explained it thoroughly, but he replied that I didn't understand how bad he used to be and how far apart we were in backgrounds. I gave him my full testimony and emphasized that there is no favoritism with God nor me- that there is only 1 judge ; and that he is a forgiving God. That no sin is listed as worse and that If he knows the word and believes , then we have our debts paid in full through the blood of Jesus PTL
I'm making headway!
I laughed with joy Jack reading your good words and headway God is giving you. Gentle and patient persuasion pays off. "Through patience a ruler can be persuaded and a gentle tongue can break a bone." Prov.25:15
DeleteJack you are a great example of the way we should all be, reaching out and sharing your faith. Thank you for your leadership.
DeleteThat's a great relational verse. Our actions provoke actions.
Delete1. Proverbs 19:11 "A person's wisdom yields patience; it is to one's glory to overlook an offense." My wife and I are polar opposites in this regard. She is assertive...I am patient. She seeks immediate justice; I bide my time for the Lord's justice to be done. How to show my wife that I can defend and protect my family from injustice when I am called to exercise prudence, patiently consider my next move carefully, and turn the other cheek. I certainly don't want to give the impression that I am a pushover who will let other walk over him, but what do I gain from being quick to anger or from seeking an eye for an eye? I am torn on this issue. Perhaps your wisdom can guide me to a middle road, brothers.
ReplyDelete2. Walking with Dave this past Saturday presented us with an opportunity to each share how we came to Christ and M3. I, personally came to Christ after a life of hiding shamefully in his presence. I grew up attending church regularly and serving at church, but my relationship with God, then, was one of shamed and unworthy son to condemning father. How many men don't walk through the doors of New Life each Sunday feeling the same way...that they are somehow to far from the redeeming grace of God, to unworthy to come to the foot of the throne. It take amazing courage to come to the alter at the end of service. This weekend was my first time reporting to the front. I was intimidated. Who am I to point other men to God, unworthy as I am to call myself His disciple?
Our conversation during that walk reminded me that I am right to recognize that I am undeserving and unworthy (we all are), but still our Father looks on us with loving eyes and welcomes us with outstretched arms. Our unworthiness is the very thing that calls us to communion with Christ who makes us worthy by his grace (not our good deeds or acts alone). This is what I did my best to communicate to the men I spoke with after the first service: God has called you. You have heard His call. You are not alone. You needn't take the next bold step alone. I'm glad we all found each other at the crossroad of our personal journey to Christ.
Great stuff my brother. I was timid to go up front in the beginning but once I did I felt free and looked forward to it every Sunday. I am so happy you are active in M3. If you need help just send me a text or call GOD BLESS
DeleteI too enjoyed the walk and good discussion time together Osiris. I'll announce the idea of inviting others for a hike this Saturday on tomorrow's blog. Regarding the issue with your wife- why not email her a version of what you have shared, asking her, in light of your different wiring, what middle road response she would be content with?
DeleteI think there seems to be a tension in wisdom with mercy and consequence hanging in the scales. It also seems that God has inherently wired us differently to accomplish different feats. For some their angry passion allows them to stand up to injustice and fight against and in that we see the beauty of Gods justice; for others we see the calm long suffering, that offers constant and often instant forgiveness in this we see the beauty of Gods compassion. I think too often we assimilate when we should honor the differences, we are one body with many parts designed to accomplish their functions and yet still interdependent on the other parts to perform their functions in order for ours to have purpose. As far as your wife is concerned I encourage you to draw her out with many questions so that you may walk with her in understanding.
DeleteWelcome to M3 brother Luis Ortiz. I look forward to learning Gods word with you in this blog.
ReplyDelete1. Proverbs 19 : 11 NIV A person's wisdom yields patience; it is to one's glory to overlook an offense.
Here is a verse that I struggle with quit a lot in my life. Growing up I was showed to defend myself from anybody that disrespect me. I had a very short temper and hated to be offended. With marriage and children I have gain patients but still lack it when i get angry. I pray for patients everyday especially when I'm driving. I can lose my cool in a split second. God forgive me! I try my best and have been getting better at to but I still need to remind myself hourly.
2. A conversation I had recently with a friend is my good friend Ernesto. We both wrecked havoc growing up. He is a believer of Christ. Recently he attended New Life with his family when my wife got baptized. Even thou we have differences on many views we still talk weekly about common interests. He's a good man with his heart in the right direction. I see great potential in him. He is a great husband and father to his daughters. I have been praying for him for years and his family. No matter what he has always been a great brother during my good times and bad time and I can't wait to see him attend New Life again.
Great verse my brother. I got your in back in prayer for that brother.
DeleteThanks for sharing about growing in patience Horacio. Are you familiar with our Points4Progress method of overcoming such things? I'll call you soon and explain it.
DeleteSo glad you have a lifelong friend in Ernesto and that you see great potential in him as God certainly does. Has he seen the our YouTube video yet? bit.ly/m3-stories
Happy to hear that you have such a great friend and that he also is seeking God. I am confident that you will continue to have a positive impact in his life.
DeleteProverbs 19:8Good News Translation (GNT)
ReplyDelete8 Do yourself a favor and learn all you can; then remember what you learn and you will prosper.
1- Just a cool verse. I like the fact how you can look at different versions and get better understanding.
2- I've been talking to a guy at work who I am training. I just been telling him about my marriage and kids. Also how God has used them to make me grow to a manly man. It's funny how as I was telling him that, I made a left hand turn and I happened to drive by NEW LIFE BROOKFIELD. I felt like I had back up. I've been told that there is something different about me. I tell them I love God and it's Him that's doing the work in me. To God be the glory and honor.
GOD BLESS
Very good Vince and thanks for passing on encouragement to others on the blog today. Keep shining the light- you are a bright one!
DeleteYou are bing a great testimony for Christ, keep up the good work.
Deletegreat story keep sharing.
DeleteBrother Vince, one word come to mind "transparent" for Christ. Keep doing the good work brother.
DeleteAwesome brother Vince, I love what Christ is doing in your life!! Keep on staying dependent upon Him, for He is Mighty in Battle and when God is with you, who can stand against you??
DeleteI found it interesting that the words “A false witness will not go unpunished” is in two different verses of the same chapter. This makes me think of the saying “If it’s worth saying, it’ll surely be repeated.” In reading this passage, I noticed a lot of comparisons; “wealth brings this…but this means this…..a poor man…but how much more…When I read this I am reminded of my old email signature that I used for years and is very applicable for what we stand for in M3:
ReplyDeleteFear more a pack of deer led by a lion than a pack of lion led by a deer.
There is a huge comparison in this quote. If you didn’t get it the first time, read it again. It speaks volumes on leadership, leaders’ ability to influence and persuade and the people that they lead.
We have also mentioned friends and sustaining them. In my time overseas, it was inevitable that if dealing with a host nation whether it was training, fighting or collaboration of any kind, we were going to eat, drink and be merry. This was the way that we grew trust and built rapport. Something happens to the soul when it is induced with cooked dead animals and bubbly (non-alcoholic of course) drinks. In every culture, it is traditional and customary to break bread with those that you love. Geez, I’ve even dined with the Taliban. They are so convinced that it is important to do, they did it so that they wouldn’t know they were the bad guys……….so, who is ready for some goat?!?!?
Excellent Mark! So enjoyed what you had to say. I was just about to call you and so I will.
DeleteInteresting post my brother :) I am so glad you are in M3 :)
Delete1.We gain knowledge by studying God's Holy Word.the best thing we can do is follow the Lords Jesus example. By serving others..19.2."Desire without knowledge is not good— how much more will hasty feet miss the way!"
ReplyDelete2.I need to be more intentional and focus on recruiting for M3. last Wednesday l handed out cards at the Wednesday morning Bible study we talked about the need to stay in God's Word and encourage one another.
Great stuff George! I to need to focus more on recruiting people. I know I make it harder than it really is.
DeleteVery good George! You sowed the seed by giving out the cards. Now they need to be watered with one on one conversations which you are good at. You are a very caring person. Hope you got the email I sent you.
Delete1) 19:2 Enthusiasm without knowledge is no good; haste makes mistakes.
ReplyDeleteI think intelligent passion is a great combination but I have been on the opposite end where desire and impulse reign and at first there is intense pleasure followed by an onslaught of negative consequences. I wouldn't say you have to plan every move but if your unaware of the potential outcome I would say foolishness has become you.
2) I recently asked someone if there had heard about or were interested in the M3 group. There response was that they were presently too busy.
Good words Antonio.
DeleteIf you haven't already, I would recommend to start by asking people if they would watch the M3 YouTube video and then follow up asking them what they thought of it. "I'm busy will be the most common response men will give us. We all are busy. But people always make time for things they really want to do. I would dare say that most people who say, "I'm too busy watch TV, yet they claim to be too busy. If they watch the video and that doesn't awaken a desire, then they are too dull, not too busy. Sometimes I've found that they need help being shown that M3 won't overwhelm their schedule. If they already spend time in God's word, now they will just be spending it with us as well and get more out of it. Plus, enable them to multiply their lives into others, fulfilling the mission they were given. some will respond, others won't, so we keep sowing the seed. Their are hungry hearts out there, like yours :)
You are an awesome brother, Antonio :) carefully, prayerfully planning your steps, along with receiving godly counsel is a recipe for success :)
Delete1. Proverbs 19:11 A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one's glory to over look an offense.
ReplyDelete2. I love it when I get personalized, thoughtful, and loving prayers texted to me. So far Dave, Eddie, Vince, and Robert Roman have all done so. Thanx guys! ;-)
So glad to hear you have great men that encourage you my brother.
DeleteHope you like the phone calls too:)
DeleteVerse 19:2 was very audible for me today. I continue to strive for God's patience and due timing in all thing even though life is very busy and sometimes there is difficulty in re-strategizing what life throws at me.
ReplyDeleteI have expressed to Enrique a friend who is at mens group on Tuesday nights, and he is very diligent in expressing what God speaks directly to him. I will commit to inviting him to take a look at our posts.
Very good Gary. And blessings upon you for reaching out to Enrique.
Delete1.http://bible.com/97/pro.19.8.msg Grow a wise heart—you’ll do yourself a favor; keep a clear head—you’ll find a good life.
ReplyDeletehttp://bible.com/111/pro.19.8.niv The one who gets wisdom loves life; the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper.
As I get feed by God's words on a regular basis and getting more than fundamental understanding of him, the more I can truly live, breath and rejoice the Grace that He gives us.
2. This past week a co worker of mine( also used to attend Nl midway now goes to Nl Oak Lawn) decided to call me and just chat on how I've been. After couple minutes of conversing I asked him "do you have a core group of men that you can share,be open to, pray with, and or have alongside someone to ho through daily battles"? He answered me and said "not since midway", I've opened my friendship to him even more (one on one) but also enthusiastically pointed to M3! Explained to him basics of M3, he answered and said "I will take a look into " ," might be something I need:!!
Great to see you quoting Prov.19:8 from a couple different versions.
DeleteExcellent use of questions Ismael! Ask him to watch the M3 video and then follow up, asking him what he thought of it. Then recommend the website. Bueno!
Way to go brother! God rewards those that diligently seek Him :)
Delete1. Proverbs 19:11 "A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one’s glory to overlook an offense."
ReplyDelete2. I have recently contacted by a friend who was going through a extremely difficult time. I made the time to talk with him. During that time, I answered questions regarding different topics in the Bible and encouraged him. The whole conversation was extremely important, and my friend was greatly encouraged. I'm glad that God used me to help my friend.
So am I Alex! Way to go!
DeleteAlex, your friend is lucky to have you as a friend.
DeleteGood work brother, you brought comfort to your friend, what we men need most of, bless you !
Delete1. Proverbs 19:1 Better the poor whose walk is blameless than a fool whose lips are perverse.
ReplyDeleteThis verse is about humility. A poor person that is a good person is better than an arrogant and cocky person who is disrespectful.
2. I was talking with some friends about how if we could go back in time and do things differently knowing what we know now.
Chuy, I'm sure that was a good conversation. I can think of a few things I would do differently if I could do it all over again.
DeleteMay the Lord use you all the more in their lives Chuy. He has and is changing you much.
DeleteYes sometimes we revisit our pass brother, that's what it is, now is when we correct our pass and use what we learn for instruments on our present and future for the glory of God.
DeleteDave your T-shirt reminded me of this joke – My wife is weird, she always starts conversations with, "Are you even listening to me!"
ReplyDeleteProverbs 19:11 Sensible people control their temper; they earn respect by overlooking wrongs.
This is a good verse to remind me to control my temper. I’m usually pretty easy going, at home and work when I run into problems I just go with the flow and do what I need to, to work around them. It’s when I’m driving that I lose my temper the most. I’m trying to be better because I don’t like the way I sound, I still slip up sometimes but I’m getting better.
I’ve mentioned M3 to a coworker who goes to another Christian Church. I’ll make it a point to talk with him this week and send him the link to the video.
That gave me a good laugh George! I'm sharing it on the blog tomorrow.
DeleteGlad you're reaching out to your friend and congrats again on your baptism!
During the times we've talked I never would of imagine u would react in this rage, sure this small hurdle u will conquer, until than I hope not to venture near your driving.
DeleteFirst and Foremost, a huge and warm Welcome to my man Lou! Glad to have such an awesome brother on board and in our Fire team. Looking forward to encouraging you and being encouraged by you!
ReplyDelete1) The verse I chose from today's reading was:
Proverbs 19:2 "Desire without knowledge is not good— how much more will hasty feet miss the way!"
It reminded me much of something I was discussing with some guys at group. Prayer and Action. Wanting something so much, bringing it before Him consistently in prayer, but taking no action in faith. It is not walking in a trust in the Lord. So many times people are praying for a job. They are asked, "how's the job search going?" - and are answered with "Good, great, taking it to God. I believe He has something big coming my way...". Where some fail is that they did not take action and put any applications out, go on interviews, look high and low for that job they need. It isn't necessarily a lack of faith. It is summed up more in a lack of initiative. Their trust doesn't fully develop because they are not stepping out trusting that their prayer was heard. They want the knock-on-the-door and "you're hired"..just without the effort. In the same way that Prayer and Action work, so to would Desire and Knowledge. A man's desire can be strong for something (much like the faith in prayer), however, without knowledge, what can be done. Nothing. Knowledge would be the catalyst for change, just like Action would, but effort need to be made to gain it first! We need to be prepared and fully equipped to take God for His word and take action or grow in knowledge ---- Make Effort ---- to truly see God's handiwork in us take full bloom.
2) I recently had a conversation with a good friend. He was sharing some stories about the difficulty he has been facing in his work. I was honored to be let in a little deeper into his life and what's going on in it. As he shared, I tried hard to encourage where I could, offer a understanding ear, advise when possible, and to pray for Him. In that one conversation and the corresponding aftermath, I was able to see our friendship grow further. Glory to God that I might be used in any positive way. I cannot on my own. It was an encouraging experience in itself for me.
Very good William! I'd write more, but it's way past my bedtime.
DeleteBrother, so true, action will bring results, favorable or not favorable, we do need to move forward, this I am guilty off, tks for the inspiration.
DeleteThan you sir, glad to be on board.
Delete1. Prov 19:6 says, "Many will seek the favor of a generous man, And every man is a friend to him who gives gifts." -- this theme about gift giving keeps coming to my mind. Since I am constantly negotiating, I can definitely learn when to intentionally give gifts to advance my persuasion :)
ReplyDelete2. Just a couple of days ago, I was talking to a good friend of mine, James. He asked me what I think he should do regarding a financial matter in his life, so I told him. He then told me, because he considers me his brother, he will do exactly what I recommended and he did. Friendship is powerful!!
It is, and that you are, bless you brother
DeleteGood Israel! Studies show that when a gift is given up front, it adds to your influence. Example, the studies revealed that when waitresses give mints or something early on, it increased their tips. The mints given early on were associated with her being generous and friendly. If given at the end, it just seemed more like what was expected.
Delete1.- Prov. 19;9. "A false witness will not go unpunished, and whoever pours out lies will perish." Truth always prevails, one who succumbs to falsehood will foster hardships. 2. - I have a friend from high school, John Diaz who I talk to on occasions. John is one of few friends who I still keep in contact with, all of my old friends are not Christians and most stay away from me. Some like John have accepted me and have seen the changes in me and are curious and mystify that I longer do the things we use to do or even show interest in attending get together by old friends. One must not take exposure to temptation lightly. Just last week John called me to talk and see how, I am doing. He feels comfortable talking to me, I do not judge him, his wife passed away years ago and he cares for his disable adult son. He tells me how he struggles in finding or having a female companion, in trusting them, he see's them as only wanting someone to financially care for them. Every time we talked I've ask him to attend church with me, I tell him how God is working in my life. He has not totally rejected of someday coming to church and making arrangements for his son. I pray for my brother, God's will be done! Ps. He's Catholic
ReplyDeleteGood Armando! Glad you are reaching out to John. Sunday I will give you a tool to help him.
Delete1 11 A person’s wisdom yields patience;
ReplyDeleteit is to one’s glory to overlook an offense.
I think it shows that people with wisdom are humble and that patience goes along with humility. Perhaps wise people remember their own mistakes and more gracious with others.
2 I was chatting with a former student of mine Fred, who is from China, but is currently studying at a university in Michigan. We used to have Bible studies during his evening study hall time when he was a student at my previous school (which was a boarding school) and I check in with him often to see how his walk is going. I encouraged him to join the group and sent him the description.
I just laughed with joy Ed reading how you are reaching out to Fred in Michigan. That would be a great way to keep in touch with him regularly. I'm so glad M3 is enabling us to do that as well.
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