Tues.4.21.15 How Come You Don't Believe in Mary?



How Come you Christians Don't Believe in Mary?



That's a great question. We do believe that Mary was a most favored woman. What a wonderful privilege to be chosen by God to bear the Christ child. I too admire her for her love and trust in God. Let's now consider a number of important questions regarding Mary.

Was Mary sinless?
The Catholic church says Mary never sinned, but here we run into a problem, for the Catholic Bible says, "...all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (see Romans 3:23). By the way, all Bible verses quoted are from the Catholic Bible Confraternity Version. The Catholic and Protestant New Testaments are virtually identical. I think the differences we do have could be settled if we both look at what the Catholic Bible itself says. Even popes have repeatedly urged people to read the word of God. Pope Benedict said, "we shall never...desist from urging the faithful to read daily the Gospels, the Acts and the Epistles, so as to gather thence food for their souls."  

Did Mary also need a Savior for her sins?
Mary herself said, "My soul rejoices in God my Savior" (see Luke 1:47). Again, let me state that I hold Mary in high esteem. She was a godly woman, but none of us believe she was God. Even if Mary only sinned a few times in her entire life, with an unkind word or thought, she too would then need a Savior. And the Savior of Mary and all who trust in Him was born via the Holy Spirit and Mary. We too can rejoice with Mary that God would send His only Son to be the Savior of sinners like us.

Did the Virgin Mary remain a virgin all her life? 
The Catholic church teaches this, but this runs opposite of what the Catholic Bible declares. It reveals that Joseph had no sexual relations with her until after Jesus was born (see Matthew 1:25). Then what happened? They had other children. Even the people of Jesus' hometown of Nazareth said of Jesus and his family, "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Jude? And his sisters, are they not all with us?" (see Matthew 13:55-56).

Was Mary born by "immaculate conception?"
Some Catholics don't know much about this church declaration. For hundreds and hundreds of years, Catholics believed that Mary was born like any other child. But on December 8th, 1854, Pope Pius the IX declared that Mary was conceived without sin. To quote his words, "The most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instant of her conception... was preserved free from all stain of original sin." But the Catholic Bible says nothing about such.  

Did Mary really go directly to heaven without dying?
This new Catholic doctrine is known as the assumption of Mary, that she was assumed up into heaven without dying. Pardon me, but to me it does seem like quite an assumption to believe this new teaching for the following reasons. First, there is not even a hint of this happening to Mary mentioned in the Catholic Bible. Second, good Catholics did not believe this for centuries. Many Catholics alive today didn't believe such and weren't required to believe such until 1950.    
Zan Michiteru wrote the following: "The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary was officially declared to be a dogma of the Roman Catholic faith on November 1, 1950. However, in 495 A.D., Pope Gelasius declared that the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary is a heresy and people who teach it are heretics. In the sixth century, Pope Hormisdas declared that anyone teaching this doctrine is a heretic. Two "infallible" popes both declared that this doctrine is a heresy. Then on November 1, 1950, Pope Pius XII (another "infallible" pope) declared that the same doctrine is official Roman Catholic dogma, which all Catholics are required to believe. So before November 1, 1950, any Catholic who believed in the Assumption of Mary was a heretic (because of "infallible" declarations of popes). But after November 1, 1950, any Catholic who failed to believe in the Assumption of Mary was a heretic (because of the "infallible" declaration of Pope Pius XII). How could this be?"

Are the traditions of the Popes infallible?
The Catholic church teaches a doctrine called "papal infallibility"- that the pope is supposedly incapable of speaking error when he makes decrees regarding church teachings. The problem with that belief is that as the above quote pointed out, sometimes popes contradicted each other. I guess that was okay up until 1870. That is the year that the church began proclaiming that the pope was infallible. Since then, you must never disagree with the pope. Before the year 1139, priests could marry, but since then they have been forbidden to do so. Was that a good decree? Did you know the Catholic Bible denounces those who would forbid marriage as a doctrine of demons? (see 1 Timothy 4;1-3). Many believe that the results of clergy celibacy have been disastrous. Did you know that even Peter, whom Catholics call the first pope, was married? (see Matthew 8:14-15 and 1 Corinthians 9:5). 

So should we pray to Mary?
Many Catholics pray to Mary every time they use a rosary. They believe that since she was the mother of Jesus, she can thus influence her son in heaven to do what people on earth ask of her. But with all due respect to Mary, let's see if this could be true. Is Mary more concerned for us than Jesus is? Is Mary more knowing of our situation than the all-knowing Jesus? Is there anything in the Catholic Bible encouraging us to pray to Mary? No, nothing. Can Mary mediate our needs to God? No. Instead the Catholic Bible declares, "For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all." (See 1 Timothy 2:5-6). 

Praying to Mary and doing penance cannot take away your sins. Only Jesus can. Only He died and rose again for you. Only He can come into your life and transform it. It’s not by trying and by doing good works; it’s by trusting His finished work on the cross. Jesus paid all your sin debt and now offers you a free gift of complete forgiveness by faith in Him alone. Obey His command to repent of depending on your good works and trust Him alone. (see Ephesians 2:8-9). That’s what Mary would want you to do. In John 2:5, she said, “Whatever He says to you, do it.”  

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Men, the article above was written for a Catholic to read, so please copy it and pass it on to those whom you think might be receptive to it. Will it convert them? Probably not that alone. But we should be thinking and acting like farmers. Our responsibility is to spread the seed and leave the results to God to make things grow in His time. He doesn't normally without our part of sowing seeds.

1.- A number of verses were quoted or referred to. What's one that you want to remember? Share it with us and and then write it on your MP3 card.

As you've noticed, we have been also discovering gold in Romans 1-5 over the past couple weeks. Like a prosecuting attorney, Paul set forth the evidence that all men are unrighteous before a righteous God. But then he set forth the good news of salvation through faith in the sacrifice of Christ for our sins. If you have time, read through the last of our apologetics study in Romans 1-5. Read Rom.5:12-21. You'll  note the contrast between two men- the first Adam and the last Adam, Jesus Christ. Mary is never mentioned.

Announcements
Jack will not be in town after all this weekend. So our meeting is rescheduled for the following Sunday, May 3rd at 3:00. See you then.

What's our mission? To Multiply MANLY Men! To do that we need to do focus on *Enriching others with what we've been learning and enjoying. "Hey, I want that too!"
*Enlisting others. We award you for doing so. You move up in rank and honor.
*Exemplifying- Be a G.R.E.A.T. example for others to be inspired by. 
*Encouraging others- You'll see on the scoreboard that some of your brothers are passing on encouragement to a few others in one day. If you are new or weak in this, then please make it a goal to pass on encouragement to at least one other brother each day. It could be on what they said or it could be a brief pray or word of commendation to them. We all need it, including our family members. M3 is also about helping you in your family life too. And we just gave you perhaps a suggestion that some family members are dying to receive from you- ongoing encouragement and appreciation. Pour such on like water on a dying plant, and watch what happens.

So who will you be enriching this week with videos we've enjoyed,etc? Target Christian men you would like to later enlist into M3. Friday, you'll get to share whom you shared with.

I'm glad to welcome Daniel Contreras back with us. He blogged late last night. Please give a word of encouragement to men I didn't see on the blog yesterday- Israel, Lucas and Oscar, who is now back from his honeymoon. Welcome back Oscar! Please reach out to these men especially if they are on your fire team and if you are on today's team standing guard- that would include the following good men- Ismael, Alex, James and Phil. Eddie is on that team too, but he is away from technology in Cuba, scouting out the land. Please keep him in your prayers.  


58 comments:

  1. 1. Excellent article on Mary. So much great information on the Catholic Church and where many of the traditions they hold so dearly started.
    The verses that I thought were important are found in Eph. 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
    How great it is to know that we don't have to try to do good works to earn our salvation but rather the total opposite. We need to surrender our lives to Christ believing that He died on the cross for our sins and rose on the third day. Thank you Lord for that great sacrifice made by Jesus on the cross by which we will spend eternity with you.

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    1. Thank you Roger for your very good verses everyday.

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    2. Roger, agred brother! What a great gift from God.
      Once we surrender our lives, heart and soul to the Lord-- it comes natural through the Holy Spirit in us to love our neighbor and do good works

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    3. Brother Roger, I enjoyed the article as well. I was raised Catholic and I appreciate the good things they have done but I can't condone their erroneous doctrines. May God have mercy on us all.

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  2. 1. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 ESV For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. I like this verse because I now can properly tell someone why I pray to Jesus and not Mary. Good verse. Saved it to my m3 card.

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    1. Amen James that is a great reason for me to.

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    2. Really good verse for everyone 1Timothy 2:5-6

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    3. James -- good points as we must get this point across to others that Jesus is the only way, truth and the Life.

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    4. Brother James, great point. "The shortest distance between two points is a straight line" (Archimedes)

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  3. Thanks brother Roger you took my thoughts and wrote them. That verse is what has given me life in Jesus Christ

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  4. Well that was an interesting piece, I have always wondered who really am I supposed to be praying for while I was growing and I had to dig deeper because I do not know many of these words for example 2 of them, excuse my ignorance.

    INFALLIBLE
    adjective
    : not capable of being wrong or making mistakes : not fallible
    : certain to work properly or succeed

    Heresy is any provocative belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs. A heretic is a proponent of such claims or beliefs.[1] Heresy is distinct from both apostasy, which is the explicit renunciation of one's religion, principles or cause,[2] and blasphemy, which is irreverence toward religion.[3]

    I don't know what it's all contradictory when the bible it's self explains thoroughly how things were, are and will be. The book of Ephisians will always and forever be with me, the lord told me to read the book of Ephesians, that I would find my answers to my life there.

    Ephesians 2:8-10

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

    not by works, so that no one can boast.

    For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

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    1. No worries Guillermo. Everyone is ignorant of something. The key is to continue to seek God's given wisdom. Just like you are doing. Good job! Plus, you are saving others time from looking words up. I certainly don't remember the exact meaning of all the words mentioned. Thanks for clarifying. Have a blessed day.

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    2. Guillermo, thanks for your great posts and digging into the meanings to understand. Absolutely it is by Gods grace that we are redeemed as we believe completely and repent

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    3. Brother Guillermo, great digging :-) "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." Matthew 7:7

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    4. Excellent digging Guillermo!

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  5. Great piece Dave. Keep up the good work. I pray that we continue to help others see and hear the truth.

    There is no other mediator. Only one God and He is Jesus.

    MP3 verse Romans 5:15b

    ...the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

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    1. Sam. It was a great piece and I also want to thank you for your consistent encouragement of others. You are a great example for others

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    2. Brother Sam, yes, I concur and come in agreement with your prayer!

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  6. I also have to share a verse that was told to me that all this reminds me of.

    Ephesians 2:1-5

    As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,

    in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

    All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath.

    But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,

    made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved

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  7. 1. Layover in Miami. I will be off the charts very soon though. Praying for you brothers. God's really laying it on my heart to pray, just to pray about everything that is in my life and happening currently, for the cities, our city, chicago. Lifting you guys up.

    Just was thinking about today's scripture and the impact of one man. One man's choice to disobey caused an impact for generations to come. And one man's choice to be obedient caused freedom and grace and mercy to flow abundantly over all (who accept it and believe it) for the rest of time.
    Romans 5:15, 19 NIV

    But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!....For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

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    1. Brother Eddie, thank you for your prayers and postings. May the Lord provide you with traveling mercies. May He rebuke all mechanical breakdowns, roads hazards and accidents and allow you to reach your destination and return home safely and on time, in Jesus Mighty name, amen!

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    2. Eddie keeping you in prayer. Blessings.

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  8. Good question on Mary because catholic put Mary as like being just like Jesus that is why
    they think it is OK to pray to her for help from God. I like the two verses Roger and James
    pick out for my sisters and brothers in catholic church so they can read for them self's.

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    1. John, great please always show them the light of Jesus

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    2. Brother John, yes, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Thank you for reaching out to them with love and kindness.

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    3. John it is always great to see you plugged into the Word and giving your opinion on what God is teaching you. Thank you for being faithful.

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  9. 1. Ephesians 2:8-9 " For by grace you have been saved through faith-- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so no one can boast."
    It is so very important to understand this as so many Catholics that I talk to think that they get points for good works and that being a good person surely gets them to heaven. I explain to them that it is through the grace of God once they fully believe and repent for their sins-- that then they receive the Holy Spirit and it is then natural to be a good person and do good works. What a wonderful gift from our Father!

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    1. Brother Jack, very well explained. The fruit is a natural byproduct from the Spirit!
      "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23

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    2. Jack you are a great example to all of us in M3 as you reach out to people with the changing truth of the Word of God. Keep up the good work.

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  10. For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all." (See 1 Timothy 2:5-6).

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. (‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭8-9‬ NIV)

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  11. We can never take the sacrifice that Jesus made and compare it to Mary. God used her to bring his son to our world, but did not use her to perform Gods miracles.

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    1. Brother Andre, you're right, there's no comparison! Mary sacrificed and suffered, but not for the sins of the world. Keep up the good works :-)

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  12. Luke 1:47- "My soul rejoices in God my Savior" .I like this verse because I do rejoice in the Lord and am filled with joy because of Him. I have had friends in the past ask me why I don't pray to the virgin Mary. I tell them if they need heart surgery do they get the nurse to do the surgery or do they let the experience Doctor do the surgery. I also tell them I prefer to go straight to the top and not stop in between. .

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    1. Brother Mike, agreed! Why go through a middleman when you can go straight to the Source?!

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  13. 1. And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior," Luke 1:46-47

    Yes, Mary was highly favored by the LORD! Every person that has walked on the surface of this earth has been made in the image of God and therefore has value.

    "The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” Luke 1:28
    "But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God." Luke 1:30

    There's a difference between admiration and Idolatry! We must be careful not to get the two confused and inadvertently place someone on a pedestal.

    It was an honor and a privilege bestowed upon Mary by God and we shouldn't devalue that fact, nor should we elevate her to a god/idol status.

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    1. Very true! Thanx for sharing Robert! And thank you for encouraging me each day. Much love brother!

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  14. Matthew 13:55-56 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? “And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?”

    What an awesome read this was! I really enjoyed reading it. I feel like i am in school learning daily knowledge with my brothers in Christ. I honestly had no idea that Jesus had all these brothers.

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    1. Great to have you with us my brother. Praying for you. M3 blog is filled with great info and truth.

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    2. Phil, ya make me :) Glad you're getting so much from M3. We've got something worth inviting other men to.

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  15. 1 Timothy 2:5-6New International Version (NIV)
    5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

    A great verse to memorize. Its so plain and simple, straight to the point. Jesus is the only way to heaven.

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    1. Yes Vince. And that makes it a great verse to use in witnessing to other.

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  16. 1) MP3 verse >"For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all." 1 Timothy 2:5

    As a new born again Christian trying to understand and to grasp the doctrines taught by the Bible, I struggled through letting go of my previous Catholic beliefs. Letting go of venerating Mary was sort of a big issue for me. 1 Timothy 2:5 weakened that hold on me. But what about all those supposed appearances of Mary documented by the Catholic Church. Then I came across
    2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." I realized that deception was at work and that the appearance themselves may have been from Satanic forces. I was able to let go of this wrong Catholic belief and was able to see Mary from the Biblical perspective in the Word of God.

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  17. Father, thank You for giving me the gift of sweet sleep. Help me to cast my cares on You and make it a priority to stay well rested so I can live the life You have designed for me in Jesus’ name! Amen.

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  18. Very informative walk through on these points on Catholicism beliefs. Have asked myself these questions previously and great to have insight and guidance from a brother:

    For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. (‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭23‬ NLT)

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  19. "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time." 1 Timothy 2:5-6

    This verse clearly shows that the Catholic Doctrine of Mary is unbiblical. This is a very good verse.

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  20. 1.The song "mary did you know" is a great way to let Catholics know The Truth About Mary.
    Mary was highly favored.Luke 1:28
    The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
    Ephesians 2:8-9
    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

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  21. I like the statements about the infallible popes with their traditions changing and the assumption of Mary yet no where in scripture states that. They kept changing the doctrines to what is right or heresy Even involving marriage. Kinda reminded me of a co worker who grew up being JW and said " this is why I stopped practicing because his elders(men) keep changing things up in their bible that at some point one begins to question what is true and what is real? Who knows, one thing I do know is that their is a God and his word which whatever it is never changes because He is constant and never changing. That's why I also don't follow catholicism, how can someone follow popes and entrust them who are as much as error as you and me". I kind responded I know one that is constant, and proclaimed that is God, that is Jesus Christ. Is His word that I follow not no one else. He didn't say much, he gently said "just hard to believe that there is 3in1" and walked away.. He is a good friend and I will continue to pray for him as well as my family who are devout catholics.
    All this has been very informative, viewing other religions & topics at different perspective.

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  22. One key item that stuck out to me regarded the infalibility of the pope. For me this subject has come up many times and it is very striking to note tagainst a man having the knowledge and precepts of GOd and how God is truly undefinded (fully) and unsearchable
    Rom 11:33
    "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!"
    a few more
    Job 5:9
    ISA 40:28
    Col 2:3

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    1. And thanks Dave and Praise God for such a Great write up with details today.

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    2. Brother Gary, agreed, "infalibility of the pope." Is an odd concept with no Biblical foundations.

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  23. 1.- A number of verses were quoted or referred to. What's one that you want to remember? Share it with us and and then write it on your MP3 card. Verse from 1 Tim.2:5-6 "for there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Jesus Christ, who gave himself as a ransom for the all people. This has now been witnessed to all the proper time." Jesus gave his life for ours, ours sins had separated us from God, and Christ paid the penalty for our sins so that we can be reconciled to God. Jesus is the one Mediator and only one we go through for access to God. Read Rom. 5:12-21 Good reading today, talks about God's Majestic powers and merciful heart, though sinful ways were established and reign over man kind since the creation of Adam, He did not abandon us and gave us a way to access Him by his gift of grace.

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    1. Brother Armando, "He did not abandon us and gave us a way to access Him by his gift of grace." Amen!!!!!

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  24. This is a good article that answered a lot of questions that I've heard in the past. Reading this made me think of Catholic weddings when the bride brings flowers and prays to Mary.

    1 Timothy 2:5-6 (NLT)
    For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. 6 He gave his life to purchase freedom for everyone. This is the message God gave to the world at just the right time.

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  25. Brother George, it's encouraging to see how dedicated you are posting late into the night. Keep up the good work :-)

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